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QUESTION: P.J., what can you tell us about what’s going on in the Yellow Sea today? There was a South Korean ship that sunk – rescue operations going on there. There is some confusion, though, whether that was a North Korean torpedo that took this thing out. Have you learned anything? Have you talked to the South Koreans?

MR. CROWLEY: I think we are quite aware of what’s happening, and obviously we share concerns for the welfare of the crew of that ship. I think I would defer to the South Korean Government for details, but obviously it is something that we are monitoring closely and we’ll be hearing from them as further developments are – and perspective are available.

QUESTION: Is there a reason to believe the North Koreans are involved at this point?

MR. CROWLEY: Again, let’s not jump to conclusions here. I’m not aware of any evidence to that effect, but I think the authoritative source here would be the South Korean Government.

QUESTION: Okay. Just one more question on North Korea. There’s a report out this month from the East-West Center that internal stress in North Korea is growing. Half the population is watching foreign media, and that --

MR. CROWLEY: That would be a good thing.

QUESTION: That’s a good thing, right? Large groups of people are questioning Kim Jong-Il and blaming Pyongyang rather than the West for the country’s problems.

MR. CROWLEY: That, too, would be a good development.

QUESTION: So you are encouraged by this, I take it.

MR. CROWLEY: What gives you that impression?

QUESTION: Is the regime vulnerable?

MR. CROWLEY: I don’t know that we have any information to question the stability of the regime. I would – fair to say that it is experiencing some stress. The stress is of its own making. Obviously, its most recent economic policies have had a dire effect on the North Korean economy. That has, in turn, had a negative effect and complicated the lives of the average North Korean citizen.

North Korea – the government has seldom been concerned about the welfare of its people. And to the extent that there is a dynamic within North Korea that is communicating to the North Korean Government that it needs to pay more attention to the needs of its people, we think that would be a positive development.

Kirit.

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2:36 p.m. EST

MR. CROWLEY: Good afternoon. Welcome to the Department of State. I figured if we delayed the briefing further and further on a Friday afternoon, you guys would head for the bar or something, but we can do this as a conspiracy of the willing and make this short and painless.

As you saw earlier today, President Obama, Secretary Clinton, Secretary Gates, Admiral Mullen announced that we have reached agreement with Russia on a new START treaty, and it clearly is in the national interest. It demonstrates the special responsibility and leadership of the United States and Russia, since we collectively have more than 90 percent of the world’s nuclear weapons. And it also demonstrates the improving and productive nature of our relationship with Russia.

The Secretary, after participating in the White House press conference on the START treaty, hosted a bilateral for Cypriot Foreign Minister Kyprianou here at the Department of State. She reaffirmed U.S. support for the ongoing Cypriot-led efforts to reach a settlement under the auspices of United Nations Secretary General’s Good Offices Mission under Alexander Downer. President Obama and Secretary Clinton have made it clear that our support for a just and lasting settlement that reunifies the island into a bilateral – a bi-zonal and bi-communal federation. But the two ministers also talked about how to improve and deepen our relationship bilaterally as well.

And this morning, the Secretary spoke for roughly 15 minutes with Lebanese Prime Minister Hariri, discussing ongoing events in the region, including the status of the peace process and U.S. efforts regarding putting additional pressure on Iran.

You’ve just seen in the last few minutes that Iraq’s Independent High Electoral Commission has issued provisional results of the Iraqi parliamentary elections held on March 7. You’ll see a statement coming out of the State Department here shortly, but we congratulate the Iraqi people, the Iraqi Government, candidates and coalitions, and the commission itself for carrying out a successful election. In support of the election’s integrity, the commission has investigated and adjudicated a number of complaints. International observers and more than 200,000 domestic observers expressed their confidence in the overall integrity of the election, have found that there are no – there is no evidence of widespread or serious fraud. And this marks a significant milestone in the ongoing democratic development of Iraq.

And finally, you’ve received a briefing on this subject a couple of weeks ago, but just a reminder that we will celebrate tomorrow our second annual Passport Day in the USA, and U.S. citizens throughout the country can apply for a passport at any one of 18 regional passport agencies without an appointment. And with spring break and summer vacation right around the corner, now is the time to make travel plans, and that includes applying for a U.S. passport.

With that, Lach.

QUESTION: Yeah. What does the treaty say about missile defense? There are contradictory statements coming out of Moscow and Washington about what it does do on missile defense. And, of course, this is important because Republicans in the Senate might try to block the treaty.

MR. CROWLEY: Mm-hmm. Well, I think Secretary Gates is the authority on this subject. And as he made clear in the briefing a couple of hours ago, the treaty text in no way constrains our current or ongoing missile defense plans.

QUESTION: But what does it say? Can you cite at least part of the treaty? Do you have a – there is a reference to missile defense --

MR. CROWLEY: Well, there is a reference to missile defense, and it reflects the interrelationship between offensive and defensive systems. But this is a treaty regarding constraints on offensive strategic weapons and it does not constrain any plans that we currently have or envision for our missile defense.

QUESTION: P.J., what can you tell us about what’s going on in the Yellow Sea today? There was a South Korean ship that sunk – rescue operations going on there. There is some confusion, though, whether that was a North Korean torpedo that took this thing out. Have you learned anything? Have you talked to the South Koreans?

MR. CROWLEY: I think we are quite aware of what’s happening, and obviously we share concerns for the welfare of the crew of that ship. I think I would defer to the South Korean Government for details, but obviously it is something that we are monitoring closely and we’ll be hearing from them as further developments are – and perspective are available.

QUESTION: Is there a reason to believe the North Koreans are involved at this point?

MR. CROWLEY: Again, let’s not jump to conclusions here. I’m not aware of any evidence to that effect, but I think the authoritative source here would be the South Korean Government.

QUESTION: Okay. Just one more question on North Korea. There’s a report out this month from the East-West Center that internal stress in North Korea is growing. Half the population is watching foreign media, and that --

MR. CROWLEY: That would be a good thing.

QUESTION: That’s a good thing, right? Large groups of people are questioning Kim Jong-Il and blaming Pyongyang rather than the West for the country’s problems.

MR. CROWLEY: That, too, would be a good development.

QUESTION: So you are encouraged by this, I take it.

MR. CROWLEY: What gives you that impression?

QUESTION: Is the regime vulnerable?

MR. CROWLEY: I don’t know that we have any information to question the stability of the regime. I would – fair to say that it is experiencing some stress. The stress is of its own making. Obviously, its most recent economic policies have had a dire effect on the North Korean economy. That has, in turn, had a negative effect and complicated the lives of the average North Korean citizen.

North Korea – the government has seldom been concerned about the welfare of its people. And to the extent that there is a dynamic within North Korea that is communicating to the North Korean Government that it needs to pay more attention to the needs of its people, we think that would be a positive development.

Kirit.

QUESTION: I want to ask you about a couple stories that appeared over the last couple of days, one in the Wall Street Journal yesterday and another one in the LA Times today, about sanctions on Iran, the push for sanctions, specifically saying that the U.S. is in their words, watered down, but in other ways dropped some of the proposals that it’s put on the table. Can you --

MR. CROWLEY: Let me ask something, watered down what?

QUESTION: They said they’ve – according in their words – of the article – that the U.S. has at least dropped some provisions that had been put on the table for possible sanctions on Iran.

MR. CROWLEY: Well, I would suppose – I think it’s fair to say that both of those stories have significant inaccuracies. Clearly, we are consulting broadly as we envision how to put the appropriate level of pressure on the Iranian Government as part of our dual-track strategy. But in order to take something off the table, you have to actually put something on the table. We have not circulated a draft resolution. We are still in the consulting stage. We are, of course, trading ideas on not only how can we have an appropriate resolution, one that shows the unanimity of the international community, shows our shared concern about what Iran is doing. We think once we get to that point, and assuming we do get a strong resolution with appropriate measures, is going to send a very powerful signal to Iran that it cannot ignore.

But since we have not circulated a draft resolution, it’s hard to say at this point that we’re watering anything down. There’s nothing to water down. There’s nothing to take off the table. So this is an ongoing process. And we expect, as the Secretary alluded to in her comments at the White House this morning, that you’ll see increased activity here in the next few weeks.

QUESTION: Let me ask it a different way. If – understanding that there is no physical text and that nothing has been put on paper, in this idea of trading ideas back and forth on what could be included in an eventual document, would it be fair to say that some ideas have, in fact, been shot down during that process, which it would appear the article (inaudible)?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, it’s an ongoing process. So again, I think this whole aspect is fairly premature. I mean, we have our views on what the appropriate measures might be. Other countries have a variety of views of their own, and so this is an ongoing process. At the end of this, we want – we do think that having a strong, united voice through the UN will increase the impact of a resolution, if and when it is passed by the Security Council. We also understand that whatever multilateral steps are taken, they can be augmented by significant steps at the national level. And of course, this involves some careful calibration on everybody’s side. Nobody – everybody wants to send the right signal to the Iranian Government, put pressure on institutions that continue to support that government and contribute to the increasing oppression that the government is exerting on its own people.

So we want to focus on institutions like the IRGC. We want to make sure that our calibration sends the right signal and puts the right pressure on the government, but spares undue hardship on the Iranian people. So there’s as much art to science in this, and this is an ongoing process. The foundation of this is the close collaboration and consultation that we have still underway under the P-5+1 and more broadly.

You’re aware that there was a call this week at the political director level. I would anticipate we’ll have further conversations with key countries in the coming days and weeks.

QUESTION: Just one more on it, you did say that there were significant inaccuracies in the stories. Can you be more specific about what you find inaccurate?

MR. CROWLEY: I just think it’s premature.

QUESTION: Was it (inaudible) substantives that they were talking about it or was it the fact that things aren’t on what you call the table?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, I would say that in the course of this dialogue, certainly we will say what about this, and another country might say, “Nah, I don’t know about that. What about this?” And there’s a lot of --

QUESTION: There’s no contention with those elements in the story?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, no. But I would just say that the thrust of these pieces was – were that we were watering down the effort; we’re not watering down the effort. We are exploring ways, trading ideas, seeking the right formula that puts the appropriate pressure on Iran, sends a very strong signal internationally. But find – continues to find ways to support the Iranian people. And we will continue this effort.

Certainly, there are – will all of the ideas that we’ve discussed end up in a final resolution? No. But I think we are seeking a strong resolution with sanctions that have the appropriate bite, have the impact on the Iranian Government that we seek, and hopefully, with no guarantee, that it will cause Iran to reevaluate the course that it’s on.

QUESTION: And my last – sir, my last question on this topic. Just the call that happened two days ago, or I don't if it was – two days ago, I think, what changed that you saw that the Chinese decided they wanted to participate in the call? Was there anything that was perhaps offered or was there – have you seen a shift in their mentality? I mean, a few months ago, they wouldn’t even hold a call.

MR. CROWLEY: Well, we are satisfied with the level of engagement across the board, and we will continue our close consultations in the coming days.

Samir.

QUESTION: Yes, in the Secretary’s call to Hariri in Lebanon, what did she ask him about Iran?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, it was a call. We were updating each other on various regional issues. Obviously, during the course of the call, the Secretary also renewed our commitment to Lebanon and its independence and its sovereignty. Much of the call was focused on the Middle East peace process. And of course, Lebanon has a significant role to play in that. But during the course of the conversation, we also reflected on our ongoing concerns about the role that Iran is playing in the region. Lebanon is part of the Security Council and – at the present time, and obviously will play a role as the sanctions effort continues.

David.

QUESTION: P.J., back on Iran. One can expect that the Secretary will take up this issue with her colleagues in Greater Ottawa next week. Will there be specific bilaterals on it, maybe even a sort of a caucus of P-5 countries?

MR. CROWLEY: I would expect that having the G-8 ministers together, obviously, they’re focused on specific issues regarding the G-8. I think there’s a separate meeting regarding development in the Arctic. But when you get these caliber of leaders together, I would fully expect that on the margins we’ll talk about a variety of things, Iran being one of them.

QUESTION: Just a quick follow up. How many countries are with you as far as sanctions against Iran is concerned at the United Nations? And also, you think going back on many different countries – you think sanctions are going to work at this time especially on Iran, because many countries need their oil?

MR. CROWLEY: Goyal, you’re right. And that’s one of the reasons why we are – we want what ultimately advances to be effective. We want it to have the appropriate impact. We want it to be smart, intelligent, send the right signal, put the right pressure in the right spot. We – and we want it to have the right impact both in terms of how Iran sees its own self interest – we want to try to convince Iran that its long-term interest does not lie with nuclear weapons. Obviously, that is a broader conversation we’ll also have as we go through our nonproliferation and arms control agenda here in the next couple of months, culminating in May with taking steps to strengthen the nonproliferation treaty.

So – but we also want to find ways to support the Iranian people. And ultimately, if done right, we think it will convey to Iran, from the standpoint of the national community, where its own long-term self interest appropriately lies.

QUESTION: One, how are you going to enforce? And second, you think Iranian mood have changed in any way, comparing in the past to today?

MR. CROWLEY: We are obviously disappointed with Iran’s response to the gestures that we’ve made and the dialogue that we’ve had thus far. I mean, you raise a good point. In – back to how we’re going to do this, I think we do draw from the implementation of North Korea sanctions. And what you have seen is that with this painstaking effort to put together an effective sanctions resolution – and then it translates into an increasingly effective enforcement of that resolution, and you’re seeing that week in, week out with steps that the international community has taken because of its concern about North Korea’s behavior. And we have no reason to think that this same kind of strong international effort – we think it can be done in the context of Iran just as it’s been done effectively in the context of North Korea.

QUESTION: And finally, quickly, thank you, where do you stand as for an Israeli threat of attacking Iranian nuclear facilities if nothing is going to work out in the international community or at the United Nations? Are the UN --

MR. CROWLEY: Well, Goyal, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I think we – you’ve had Admiral Mullen, others have shared concerns about the unpredictability of choosing a military path to resolve this. We’re focused right now on trying to resolve it, both through the diplomatic track and through the pressure talk. But as everyone has said, we have a range of options available to us, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Michel.

QUESTION: On the Iraqi elections, the Iraqi prime minister has refused the outcomes. Do you have any reaction?

MR. CROWLEY: Has he done that today?

QUESTION: Yeah. (Inaudible.)

MR. CROWLEY: Well, I mean, we understand that – well, let me back up. First, there’s now a 10-day period of certification and there are established procedures. If any candidate has concerns about the results and wants to come forward and offer evidence that – to back up those concerns, there are established processes through the Electoral Commission to adjudicate that. At this point, I think our strong desire – because from our vantage point and from the international community’s vantage point, we have not seen any evidence of substantial fraud that would fundamentally change the outcome. It would be very important to Iraq in the coming days to work through these processes, but at the completion of this process when the results are certified, then it’s up to political leaders in Iraq to work aggressively to form a new government that will serve the interests of all Iraqis.

Go ahead.

QUESTION: Does an apparent Allawi victory bode well for reconciliation, and why?

MR. CROWLEY: I think, first and foremost, we want to see the emergence of an effective Iraqi Government that will serve the interests of all of its people. As to who will lead that government, that’s up to the Iraqis. And it’s up to – now the politics and the coalition-building that is provided for under the Iraqi constitution.

Yeah.

QUESTION: Can you elaborate on the remarks by Secretary Clinton this morning that North Korea’s nuclear proliferation should be a priority?

MR. CROWLEY: I think North Korea’s nuclear proliferation has been a priority for the United States for many years under Democratic and Republican administrations. So we are focused on this. We have offered North Korea a clear choice – back to what we were talking about earlier and the stresses that might be visible in North Korean society. North Korea has a clear path, clear choice. That choice has been evident for decades now. If it gives up its nuclear weapons, if it works constructively to create a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula, there are a great many opportunities that are available to North Korea, including an end to its political isolation and an opportunity for increased investment, opportunity for increased assistance to provide for the basic needs of North Korea’s people. And this choice is available. It’s been clear to the North Korean Government for some time and we hope that sometime soon it will cease its hesitation to take that courageous step forward, do what is called for under the agreements that North Korea signed up to, and that can be the start of a new, transformed situation in North Korea.

QUESTION: Follow-up on that.

MR. CROWLEY: Yeah.

QUESTION: Yeah. You just mentioned – already mentioned about international sanction on North Korea. When North Korea doesn’t come back to Six-Party Talk and it continuously exporting dual goods and material related with WMD and ballistic missile. Do you think this sanction is effective?

MR. CROWLEY: I do think the sanctions are effective. I think we – the sanctions are effective. You see evidence of that on a regular basis. I think it’s having an effect on North Korea. You can just see the sudden changes in behavior that it has exhibited. Sometimes it takes provocative steps, sometimes it takes conciliatory steps. But from our standpoint, we will continue to enforce these sanctions aggressively until North Korea changes its course.

Yeah.

QUESTION: On Pakistan and the David Coleman Headley case, The New York Times is reporting that Mr. Saeed, who is David Coleman Headley’s key contact, is a member of the Pakistani military. And the question is: Does the U.S. have a response on evidence that a member of the Pakistani military class played such a key role in plotting Mumbai and the Danish newspaper plot?

MR. CROWLEY: I’m not familiar with that information.

QUESTION: Can I just follow up (inaudible) different? You had some very important guests in the building who were there from Pakistan.

MR. CROWLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: I mean (inaudible).

MR. CROWLEY: (Inaudible.)

QUESTION: You had all those discussions there, so can you give some more of what we have given by those two and Secretary of State and also the foreign minister?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, we provided, I think, over the past 24-to-48 hours some fairly significant background on the very successful strategic dialogue that we had with Pakistan. I think between Secretary Clinton and Foreign Minister Qureshi, they characterized a much different, much broader relationship based on mutual interest and mutual respect. You can see it in the memos of intent that were signed yesterday in terms of rehabilitation of electricity projects, rehabilitation of roads within Pakistan.

Our civilian – the civilian component of our strategy is geared towards identifying ways to meet the needs – working with Pakistan, of course, meeting the needs of the Pakistani people, strengthening institutions, the rule of law and civilian governance within Pakistan. We have gone beyond the security lens that has been a – and remains a key component but not just now the only lens through which you can evaluate the U.S.-Pakistani relationship. As Foreign Minister Qureshi reflected, we have taken the various sectors that we have cooperated on. They’ve increased from four to 10, so I think we leave this week with – very encouraged by the dynamic discussion that we had here. There will be sectors, groups that will follow up over the next few months during the course of the dialogue. The Secretary committed to visit Pakistan again later this year to continue this high-level dialogue. So we are very encouraged by what is taking place.

QUESTION: But, P.J., intelligence community here and also India is still concerned as far as terrorism is concerned, including CIA Director Mr. Panetta. So what length did you discuss? Because Osama bin Laden sent another message challenging the U.S. and international community.

MR. CROWLEY: Goyal, a very good question. Security, counterterrorism efforts were part of the discussion this week and we will continue our cooperation. We are obviously encouraged by steps that have been taken by Pakistan in recent months because I think Pakistan now recognizes, as we do, that this is a shared threat. It’s a shared threat for Pakistan, it’s a shared threat for India, it’s a shared threat for others. And I just would caution that we should not see this in zero-sum terms. The United States is building a deeper relationship with India, a deeper relationship with Pakistan, the same with Afghanistan. This is good for the United States, it’s good for these countries individually, and it’s also good for the region as a whole.

Michel.

QUESTION: What’s the latest in the peace process? What’s the next step after Prime Minister Netanyahu’s discussions in Washington?

MR. CROWLEY: Prime Minister Netanyahu is back in the region. We had, I think, very extensive, serious conversations with him at – with various interlocutors from the President to the Secretary of State to Special Envoy Mitchell. Yesterday, we had emissaries visit with President Abbas to update him on our discussions. Obviously, in the region we are approaching kind of a holiday period, so I think at this point we are evaluating our discussions this week. We’ll continue our contacts informally with the parties, but we’ll probably go through a period now of a week to 10 days where everyone’s kind of assessing where we are and still trying to construct the most effective path forward.

QUESTION: P.J., what’s – on Gitmo, what’s your reaction to the news that former Gitmo detainee Abdul Hafiz has returned to the battlefield in Afghanistan less than six months after he was released?

MR. CROWLEY: I’m not familiar with that particular case. We have done some close analysis. There have been a small number of individuals who have returned to the battlefield. That doesn’t change that, in our view, closing Guantanamo is still the right course of action. And we want to make sure that in the future we have policies that reflect both our values and our laws. We’re working through these issues of how best to do it.

As we announced this week, you’ve had a couple of cases where detainees have been resettled or returned. So we continue, through Dan Fried, efforts to reduce the population. But I think that no one expected we would – in these complex issues, no one expect 100 percent success. There’s no legal system anywhere in the world that has 100 percent success that if you release someone on parole they’re not going to – there is a built in percentage of recidivism that goes through this. But we think, on balance, the steps that we’ve taken have been effective and we continue – we remain committed to closing Guantanamo.

QUESTION: And that percentage of recidivism is now at 20 percent.

MR. CROWLEY: I’m not sure that – there’s a lot of percentages going around. A lot depends on how you define recidivism.

QUESTION: Returned or suspected to have returned to the --

MR. CROWLEY: There’s – return is one thing, suspected is another thing. At one point in the analysis in the past, it was if you go somewhere and then say something bad about the United States. I think if you talk about precisely those people who actually go back on the battlefield, literally, and then rejoin al-Qaida or take specific action, aggressive action or violent action against U.S. or allied interests, that’s one thing. But that is a much smaller percentage than what you just cited.

QUESTION: Are you – finally, are you satisfied with the rehabilitation programs abroad that that most of these guys are going into?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, you talk about the Saudi case in particular. There is – it’s been a very effective program. Obviously, significant resources devoted to that, but a very strong social network to – and a commitment by families and others to resettle these individuals, make sure they are on a constructive path. The Saudi program is being emulated in other parts of the world. That ultimately has to be part of the solution.

Yeah.

QUESTION: P.J., Aung San Suu Kyi’s opposition party has expressed their intent to boycott the elections, and I know that you’ve expressed concern over this in the past. But on Monday, they’re having a meeting, the party, to formally announce this. What do you think the implications, specific implications, will be for the elections in Burma on that?

MR. CROWLEY: Why don’t wait until Monday to see exactly what they decide to do and then we’ll comment at then.

QUESTION: One more on that.

MR. CROWLEY: Sure.

QUESTION: Do you think that the changes to the laws in Burma’s elections will be discussed at the G-8 foreign ministers meeting?

MR. CROWLEY: We obviously are, as we said a couple weeks ago, concerned about the election laws in Burma. We were clearly disappointed by them. It by no means does what Burma has to do in terms of opening up its political process and having meaningful dialogue with parties, including Aung San Suu Kyi’s, as well as the various ethnic groups within Burma society. I can’t predict that we’ll have a specific discussion at the G-8 summit. But this is, obviously, something that is of concern to us, as concerned others, and we will continue to share notes where it’s appropriate.

David.

QUESTION: The Venezuelan Government this week seems to be getting more energetic in its crackdown on critics and media, outlets that carry criticism. Any response to that?

MR. CROWLEY: We, again, urge the Venezuelan Government to honor its commitment under the Inter-American Democratic Charter, to uphold the principle that respect freedom and rights, including freedom of expression, is essential to representative democracies.

You had an election this week within the OAS with the – Mr. Insulza being reappointed as the head of the OAS. And in our discussions leading up to his appointment, we want to see going forward a greater emphasis given to the enforcement of the Inter-American Democratic Charter within the hemisphere.

Yeah.

QUESTION: Can you confirm the meetings between the foreign minister of Japan and Secretary Clinton?

MR. CROWLEY: Can I confirm – for next week?

QUESTION: Yeah.

MR. CROWLEY: I mean, they’ll be together at the G-8. I would expect that they would get together in some fashion during the course of the meeting, yes.

QUESTION: But nothing in Oslo? You can’t confirm anything in Oslo?

MR. CROWLEY: In Oslo?

QUESTION: Yeah.

MR. CROWLEY: I’m not aware the Secretary’s going to Oslo, so --

QUESTION: Yeah, okay. All right.

MR. CROWLEY: In Ottawa, yes. In Oslo, no.

Hold on, hold on.

QUESTION: Can you go back to Pakistan?

MR. CROWLEY: Sure.

QUESTION: I have three specific questions on them. Did you discuss with them the Pakistan-Iran gas pipeline deal?

MR. CROWLEY: The which?

QUESTION: Pakistan had a gas pipeline deal with Iran earlier this month. Did this issue came up during the discussions’ two days?

MR. CROWLEY: I don’t know. I wouldn’t be surprised, but I’m not aware. I’m not – I can’t be specific. If you want, we’ll take the question and see if it came up.

QUESTION: Okay. And secondly, this is about the Pakistan request for a civilian nuclear deal, because they have been saying that there has been discriminatory energy – use of energy sources. Why U.S. is reluctant to have a nuclear deal with Pakistan?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, we – it did come up during the course of our discussions. But as the Secretary said in her availability with Foreign Minister Qureshi, our focus right now is in – to focus on other means through which to satisfy Pakistan’s energy needs.

QUESTION: And finally --

MR. CROWLEY: Okay.

QUESTION: Finally, about the – this is about Lashkar e-Tayyiba. As you know, several officials in this building and in the Congress, and this morning (inaudible) at the Senate Arms Committee hearing, they spoke about how dangerous this Lashkar e-Tayyiba is, which is Pakistan-based, primarily a threat against India but now expanding to other parts of South Asia. You have been discussing with Pakistani authorities about the actions they have been taking against al-Qaida and Taliban, was this issue specifically they’re taking action against Lashkar e-Tayyiba came up during your meetings?

MR. CROWLEY: In any conversation with Pakistan on terrorism issues, that does come up, yes.

QUESTION: Just a quick one, this morning and this afternoon at the White House when Secretary and President announced the treaty between U.S. and --

MR. CROWLEY: Don’t forget Secretary Gates and Admiral Mullen.

QUESTION: (Laughter.) Right. So what I’m saying really, there was no mention of China. And you know in this building and across the river, you must be aware and also concerned about Chinese buildup of military and nuclear arsenals and all that. But where does China stand on this – as far as this treaty and future is concerned?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, it’s actually a great question. But this was a treaty between the United States and Russia. You have – they – together we possess the two most significant nuclear arsenals in the world. But you’ll see as we go through the next couple of months, you’ve got the issue of START and its prospective ratification. We’ve got the release coming up soon of the nuclear posture review. We’ll have the nuclear security summit next month, focused on keeping nuclear technology out of the hands of rogue elements and terrorist groups. You’ve got the review conference of the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

These are all significant steps towards fulfilling President Obama’s vision of a world without nuclear weapons. So at some point in the future, we will have to broaden this conversation. I would expect that that would begin during the NPT review conference in May.

Kirit.

QUESTION: Quick question. There is reports out of Gaza that Israeli tanks are advancing into Gaza and there’s reports of Palestinian casualties, do you know anything about that?

MR. CROWLEY: That’s probably – I had not heard anything about that prior to coming out to the briefing. We’ll see what we can find out about it.

QUESTION: Thanks.

QUESTION: P.J., is there any discussion whatsoever about cooperation on missile defense with the Russians? Because obviously this was a big issue for them in the beginning, but they have agreed to the statement which mentions it. But there are no restrictions on missile defense buildup as a result of this. But was there any background discussion in terms of cooperating or alleviating the earlier concerns of the Russians on this?

MR. CROWLEY: I think we have made clear in a variety of ways – Secretary Clinton communicated it again last week when we were in Moscow, our missile defense program, the Phased Adaptive Approach program that President Obama has advanced is not in any way, shape, or form directed at Russia. And as Secretary Gates alluded to again this morning, we seek ways in which we can cooperate with Russia on missile defense as we continue to expand and build an effective deterrent for the European continent and beyond.

We’ve had these discussions with Russia in the past. They are very complex, how you seek to make our technology compatible with Russian technology, as you seek protocols and how you would exchange information. But I think we are committed to have these conversations and see what kind of cooperation we can develop in the future.

Thank you. Have a nice weekend.

(The briefing was concluded at 3:15 p.m.)

2:36 p.m. EST

MR. CROWLEY: Good afternoon. Welcome to the Department of State. I figured if we delayed the briefing further and further on a Friday afternoon, you guys would head for the bar or something, but we can do this as a conspiracy of the willing and make this short and painless.

As you saw earlier today, President Obama, Secretary Clinton, Secretary Gates, Admiral Mullen announced that we have reached agreement with Russia on a new START treaty, and it clearly is in the national interest. It demonstrates the special responsibility and leadership of the United States and Russia, since we collectively have more than 90 percent of the world’s nuclear weapons. And it also demonstrates the improving and productive nature of our relationship with Russia.

The Secretary, after participating in the White House press conference on the START treaty, hosted a bilateral for Cypriot Foreign Minister Kyprianou here at the Department of State. She reaffirmed U.S. support for the ongoing Cypriot-led efforts to reach a settlement under the auspices of United Nations Secretary General’s Good Offices Mission under Alexander Downer. President Obama and Secretary Clinton have made it clear that our support for a just and lasting settlement that reunifies the island into a bilateral – a bi-zonal and bi-communal federation. But the two ministers also talked about how to improve and deepen our relationship bilaterally as well.

And this morning, the Secretary spoke for roughly 15 minutes with Lebanese Prime Minister Hariri, discussing ongoing events in the region, including the status of the peace process and U.S. efforts regarding putting additional pressure on Iran.

You’ve just seen in the last few minutes that Iraq’s Independent High Electoral Commission has issued provisional results of the Iraqi parliamentary elections held on March 7. You’ll see a statement coming out of the State Department here shortly, but we congratulate the Iraqi people, the Iraqi Government, candidates and coalitions, and the commission itself for carrying out a successful election. In support of the election’s integrity, the commission has investigated and adjudicated a number of complaints. International observers and more than 200,000 domestic observers expressed their confidence in the overall integrity of the election, have found that there are no – there is no evidence of widespread or serious fraud. And this marks a significant milestone in the ongoing democratic development of Iraq.

And finally, you’ve received a briefing on this subject a couple of weeks ago, but just a reminder that we will celebrate tomorrow our second annual Passport Day in the USA, and U.S. citizens throughout the country can apply for a passport at any one of 18 regional passport agencies without an appointment. And with spring break and summer vacation right around the corner, now is the time to make travel plans, and that includes applying for a U.S. passport.

With that, Lach.

QUESTION: Yeah. What does the treaty say about missile defense? There are contradictory statements coming out of Moscow and Washington about what it does do on missile defense. And, of course, this is important because Republicans in the Senate might try to block the treaty.

MR. CROWLEY: Mm-hmm. Well, I think Secretary Gates is the authority on this subject. And as he made clear in the briefing a couple of hours ago, the treaty text in no way constrains our current or ongoing missile defense plans.

QUESTION: But what does it say? Can you cite at least part of the treaty? Do you have a – there is a reference to missile defense --

MR. CROWLEY: Well, there is a reference to missile defense, and it reflects the interrelationship between offensive and defensive systems. But this is a treaty regarding constraints on offensive strategic weapons and it does not constrain any plans that we currently have or envision for our missile defense.

QUESTION: P.J., what can you tell us about what’s going on in the Yellow Sea today? There was a South Korean ship that sunk – rescue operations going on there. There is some confusion, though, whether that was a North Korean torpedo that took this thing out. Have you learned anything? Have you talked to the South Koreans?

MR. CROWLEY: I think we are quite aware of what’s happening, and obviously we share concerns for the welfare of the crew of that ship. I think I would defer to the South Korean Government for details, but obviously it is something that we are monitoring closely and we’ll be hearing from them as further developments are – and perspective are available.

QUESTION: Is there a reason to believe the North Koreans are involved at this point?

MR. CROWLEY: Again, let’s not jump to conclusions here. I’m not aware of any evidence to that effect, but I think the authoritative source here would be the South Korean Government.

QUESTION: Okay. Just one more question on North Korea. There’s a report out this month from the East-West Center that internal stress in North Korea is growing. Half the population is watching foreign media, and that --

MR. CROWLEY: That would be a good thing.

QUESTION: That’s a good thing, right? Large groups of people are questioning Kim Jong-Il and blaming Pyongyang rather than the West for the country’s problems.

MR. CROWLEY: That, too, would be a good development.

QUESTION: So you are encouraged by this, I take it.

MR. CROWLEY: What gives you that impression?

QUESTION: Is the regime vulnerable?

MR. CROWLEY: I don’t know that we have any information to question the stability of the regime. I would – fair to say that it is experiencing some stress. The stress is of its own making. Obviously, its most recent economic policies have had a dire effect on the North Korean economy. That has, in turn, had a negative effect and complicated the lives of the average North Korean citizen.

North Korea – the government has seldom been concerned about the welfare of its people. And to the extent that there is a dynamic within North Korea that is communicating to the North Korean Government that it needs to pay more attention to the needs of its people, we think that would be a positive development.

Kirit.

QUESTION: I want to ask you about a couple stories that appeared over the last couple of days, one in the Wall Street Journal yesterday and another one in the LA Times today, about sanctions on Iran, the push for sanctions, specifically saying that the U.S. is in their words, watered down, but in other ways dropped some of the proposals that it’s put on the table. Can you --

MR. CROWLEY: Let me ask something, watered down what?

QUESTION: They said they’ve – according in their words – of the article – that the U.S. has at least dropped some provisions that had been put on the table for possible sanctions on Iran.

MR. CROWLEY: Well, I would suppose – I think it’s fair to say that both of those stories have significant inaccuracies. Clearly, we are consulting broadly as we envision how to put the appropriate level of pressure on the Iranian Government as part of our dual-track strategy. But in order to take something off the table, you have to actually put something on the table. We have not circulated a draft resolution. We are still in the consulting stage. We are, of course, trading ideas on not only how can we have an appropriate resolution, one that shows the unanimity of the international community, shows our shared concern about what Iran is doing. We think once we get to that point, and assuming we do get a strong resolution with appropriate measures, is going to send a very powerful signal to Iran that it cannot ignore.

But since we have not circulated a draft resolution, it’s hard to say at this point that we’re watering anything down. There’s nothing to water down. There’s nothing to take off the table. So this is an ongoing process. And we expect, as the Secretary alluded to in her comments at the White House this morning, that you’ll see increased activity here in the next few weeks.

QUESTION: Let me ask it a different way. If – understanding that there is no physical text and that nothing has been put on paper, in this idea of trading ideas back and forth on what could be included in an eventual document, would it be fair to say that some ideas have, in fact, been shot down during that process, which it would appear the article (inaudible)?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, it’s an ongoing process. So again, I think this whole aspect is fairly premature. I mean, we have our views on what the appropriate measures might be. Other countries have a variety of views of their own, and so this is an ongoing process. At the end of this, we want – we do think that having a strong, united voice through the UN will increase the impact of a resolution, if and when it is passed by the Security Council. We also understand that whatever multilateral steps are taken, they can be augmented by significant steps at the national level. And of course, this involves some careful calibration on everybody’s side. Nobody – everybody wants to send the right signal to the Iranian Government, put pressure on institutions that continue to support that government and contribute to the increasing oppression that the government is exerting on its own people.

So we want to focus on institutions like the IRGC. We want to make sure that our calibration sends the right signal and puts the right pressure on the government, but spares undue hardship on the Iranian people. So there’s as much art to science in this, and this is an ongoing process. The foundation of this is the close collaboration and consultation that we have still underway under the P-5+1 and more broadly.

You’re aware that there was a call this week at the political director level. I would anticipate we’ll have further conversations with key countries in the coming days and weeks.

QUESTION: Just one more on it, you did say that there were significant inaccuracies in the stories. Can you be more specific about what you find inaccurate?

MR. CROWLEY: I just think it’s premature.

QUESTION: Was it (inaudible) substantives that they were talking about it or was it the fact that things aren’t on what you call the table?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, I would say that in the course of this dialogue, certainly we will say what about this, and another country might say, “Nah, I don’t know about that. What about this?” And there’s a lot of --

QUESTION: There’s no contention with those elements in the story?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, no. But I would just say that the thrust of these pieces was – were that we were watering down the effort; we’re not watering down the effort. We are exploring ways, trading ideas, seeking the right formula that puts the appropriate pressure on Iran, sends a very strong signal internationally. But find – continues to find ways to support the Iranian people. And we will continue this effort.

Certainly, there are – will all of the ideas that we’ve discussed end up in a final resolution? No. But I think we are seeking a strong resolution with sanctions that have the appropriate bite, have the impact on the Iranian Government that we seek, and hopefully, with no guarantee, that it will cause Iran to reevaluate the course that it’s on.

QUESTION: And my last – sir, my last question on this topic. Just the call that happened two days ago, or I don't if it was – two days ago, I think, what changed that you saw that the Chinese decided they wanted to participate in the call? Was there anything that was perhaps offered or was there – have you seen a shift in their mentality? I mean, a few months ago, they wouldn’t even hold a call.

MR. CROWLEY: Well, we are satisfied with the level of engagement across the board, and we will continue our close consultations in the coming days.

Samir.

QUESTION: Yes, in the Secretary’s call to Hariri in Lebanon, what did she ask him about Iran?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, it was a call. We were updating each other on various regional issues. Obviously, during the course of the call, the Secretary also renewed our commitment to Lebanon and its independence and its sovereignty. Much of the call was focused on the Middle East peace process. And of course, Lebanon has a significant role to play in that. But during the course of the conversation, we also reflected on our ongoing concerns about the role that Iran is playing in the region. Lebanon is part of the Security Council and – at the present time, and obviously will play a role as the sanctions effort continues.

David.

QUESTION: P.J., back on Iran. One can expect that the Secretary will take up this issue with her colleagues in Greater Ottawa next week. Will there be specific bilaterals on it, maybe even a sort of a caucus of P-5 countries?

MR. CROWLEY: I would expect that having the G-8 ministers together, obviously, they’re focused on specific issues regarding the G-8. I think there’s a separate meeting regarding development in the Arctic. But when you get these caliber of leaders together, I would fully expect that on the margins we’ll talk about a variety of things, Iran being one of them.

QUESTION: Just a quick follow up. How many countries are with you as far as sanctions against Iran is concerned at the United Nations? And also, you think going back on many different countries – you think sanctions are going to work at this time especially on Iran, because many countries need their oil?

MR. CROWLEY: Goyal, you’re right. And that’s one of the reasons why we are – we want what ultimately advances to be effective. We want it to have the appropriate impact. We want it to be smart, intelligent, send the right signal, put the right pressure in the right spot. We – and we want it to have the right impact both in terms of how Iran sees its own self interest – we want to try to convince Iran that its long-term interest does not lie with nuclear weapons. Obviously, that is a broader conversation we’ll also have as we go through our nonproliferation and arms control agenda here in the next couple of months, culminating in May with taking steps to strengthen the nonproliferation treaty.

So – but we also want to find ways to support the Iranian people. And ultimately, if done right, we think it will convey to Iran, from the standpoint of the national community, where its own long-term self interest appropriately lies.

QUESTION: One, how are you going to enforce? And second, you think Iranian mood have changed in any way, comparing in the past to today?

MR. CROWLEY: We are obviously disappointed with Iran’s response to the gestures that we’ve made and the dialogue that we’ve had thus far. I mean, you raise a good point. In – back to how we’re going to do this, I think we do draw from the implementation of North Korea sanctions. And what you have seen is that with this painstaking effort to put together an effective sanctions resolution – and then it translates into an increasingly effective enforcement of that resolution, and you’re seeing that week in, week out with steps that the international community has taken because of its concern about North Korea’s behavior. And we have no reason to think that this same kind of strong international effort – we think it can be done in the context of Iran just as it’s been done effectively in the context of North Korea.

QUESTION: And finally, quickly, thank you, where do you stand as for an Israeli threat of attacking Iranian nuclear facilities if nothing is going to work out in the international community or at the United Nations? Are the UN --

MR. CROWLEY: Well, Goyal, let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I think we – you’ve had Admiral Mullen, others have shared concerns about the unpredictability of choosing a military path to resolve this. We’re focused right now on trying to resolve it, both through the diplomatic track and through the pressure talk. But as everyone has said, we have a range of options available to us, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Michel.

QUESTION: On the Iraqi elections, the Iraqi prime minister has refused the outcomes. Do you have any reaction?

MR. CROWLEY: Has he done that today?

QUESTION: Yeah. (Inaudible.)

MR. CROWLEY: Well, I mean, we understand that – well, let me back up. First, there’s now a 10-day period of certification and there are established procedures. If any candidate has concerns about the results and wants to come forward and offer evidence that – to back up those concerns, there are established processes through the Electoral Commission to adjudicate that. At this point, I think our strong desire – because from our vantage point and from the international community’s vantage point, we have not seen any evidence of substantial fraud that would fundamentally change the outcome. It would be very important to Iraq in the coming days to work through these processes, but at the completion of this process when the results are certified, then it’s up to political leaders in Iraq to work aggressively to form a new government that will serve the interests of all Iraqis.

Go ahead.

QUESTION: Does an apparent Allawi victory bode well for reconciliation, and why?

MR. CROWLEY: I think, first and foremost, we want to see the emergence of an effective Iraqi Government that will serve the interests of all of its people. As to who will lead that government, that’s up to the Iraqis. And it’s up to – now the politics and the coalition-building that is provided for under the Iraqi constitution.

Yeah.

QUESTION: Can you elaborate on the remarks by Secretary Clinton this morning that North Korea’s nuclear proliferation should be a priority?

MR. CROWLEY: I think North Korea’s nuclear proliferation has been a priority for the United States for many years under Democratic and Republican administrations. So we are focused on this. We have offered North Korea a clear choice – back to what we were talking about earlier and the stresses that might be visible in North Korean society. North Korea has a clear path, clear choice. That choice has been evident for decades now. If it gives up its nuclear weapons, if it works constructively to create a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula, there are a great many opportunities that are available to North Korea, including an end to its political isolation and an opportunity for increased investment, opportunity for increased assistance to provide for the basic needs of North Korea’s people. And this choice is available. It’s been clear to the North Korean Government for some time and we hope that sometime soon it will cease its hesitation to take that courageous step forward, do what is called for under the agreements that North Korea signed up to, and that can be the start of a new, transformed situation in North Korea.

QUESTION: Follow-up on that.

MR. CROWLEY: Yeah.

QUESTION: Yeah. You just mentioned – already mentioned about international sanction on North Korea. When North Korea doesn’t come back to Six-Party Talk and it continuously exporting dual goods and material related with WMD and ballistic missile. Do you think this sanction is effective?

MR. CROWLEY: I do think the sanctions are effective. I think we – the sanctions are effective. You see evidence of that on a regular basis. I think it’s having an effect on North Korea. You can just see the sudden changes in behavior that it has exhibited. Sometimes it takes provocative steps, sometimes it takes conciliatory steps. But from our standpoint, we will continue to enforce these sanctions aggressively until North Korea changes its course.

Yeah.

QUESTION: On Pakistan and the David Coleman Headley case, The New York Times is reporting that Mr. Saeed, who is David Coleman Headley’s key contact, is a member of the Pakistani military. And the question is: Does the U.S. have a response on evidence that a member of the Pakistani military class played such a key role in plotting Mumbai and the Danish newspaper plot?

MR. CROWLEY: I’m not familiar with that information.

QUESTION: Can I just follow up (inaudible) different? You had some very important guests in the building who were there from Pakistan.

MR. CROWLEY: Yes.

QUESTION: I mean (inaudible).

MR. CROWLEY: (Inaudible.)

QUESTION: You had all those discussions there, so can you give some more of what we have given by those two and Secretary of State and also the foreign minister?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, we provided, I think, over the past 24-to-48 hours some fairly significant background on the very successful strategic dialogue that we had with Pakistan. I think between Secretary Clinton and Foreign Minister Qureshi, they characterized a much different, much broader relationship based on mutual interest and mutual respect. You can see it in the memos of intent that were signed yesterday in terms of rehabilitation of electricity projects, rehabilitation of roads within Pakistan.

Our civilian – the civilian component of our strategy is geared towards identifying ways to meet the needs – working with Pakistan, of course, meeting the needs of the Pakistani people, strengthening institutions, the rule of law and civilian governance within Pakistan. We have gone beyond the security lens that has been a – and remains a key component but not just now the only lens through which you can evaluate the U.S.-Pakistani relationship. As Foreign Minister Qureshi reflected, we have taken the various sectors that we have cooperated on. They’ve increased from four to 10, so I think we leave this week with – very encouraged by the dynamic discussion that we had here. There will be sectors, groups that will follow up over the next few months during the course of the dialogue. The Secretary committed to visit Pakistan again later this year to continue this high-level dialogue. So we are very encouraged by what is taking place.

QUESTION: But, P.J., intelligence community here and also India is still concerned as far as terrorism is concerned, including CIA Director Mr. Panetta. So what length did you discuss? Because Osama bin Laden sent another message challenging the U.S. and international community.

MR. CROWLEY: Goyal, a very good question. Security, counterterrorism efforts were part of the discussion this week and we will continue our cooperation. We are obviously encouraged by steps that have been taken by Pakistan in recent months because I think Pakistan now recognizes, as we do, that this is a shared threat. It’s a shared threat for Pakistan, it’s a shared threat for India, it’s a shared threat for others. And I just would caution that we should not see this in zero-sum terms. The United States is building a deeper relationship with India, a deeper relationship with Pakistan, the same with Afghanistan. This is good for the United States, it’s good for these countries individually, and it’s also good for the region as a whole.

Michel.

QUESTION: What’s the latest in the peace process? What’s the next step after Prime Minister Netanyahu’s discussions in Washington?

MR. CROWLEY: Prime Minister Netanyahu is back in the region. We had, I think, very extensive, serious conversations with him at – with various interlocutors from the President to the Secretary of State to Special Envoy Mitchell. Yesterday, we had emissaries visit with President Abbas to update him on our discussions. Obviously, in the region we are approaching kind of a holiday period, so I think at this point we are evaluating our discussions this week. We’ll continue our contacts informally with the parties, but we’ll probably go through a period now of a week to 10 days where everyone’s kind of assessing where we are and still trying to construct the most effective path forward.

QUESTION: P.J., what’s – on Gitmo, what’s your reaction to the news that former Gitmo detainee Abdul Hafiz has returned to the battlefield in Afghanistan less than six months after he was released?

MR. CROWLEY: I’m not familiar with that particular case. We have done some close analysis. There have been a small number of individuals who have returned to the battlefield. That doesn’t change that, in our view, closing Guantanamo is still the right course of action. And we want to make sure that in the future we have policies that reflect both our values and our laws. We’re working through these issues of how best to do it.

As we announced this week, you’ve had a couple of cases where detainees have been resettled or returned. So we continue, through Dan Fried, efforts to reduce the population. But I think that no one expected we would – in these complex issues, no one expect 100 percent success. There’s no legal system anywhere in the world that has 100 percent success that if you release someone on parole they’re not going to – there is a built in percentage of recidivism that goes through this. But we think, on balance, the steps that we’ve taken have been effective and we continue – we remain committed to closing Guantanamo.

QUESTION: And that percentage of recidivism is now at 20 percent.

MR. CROWLEY: I’m not sure that – there’s a lot of percentages going around. A lot depends on how you define recidivism.

QUESTION: Returned or suspected to have returned to the --

MR. CROWLEY: There’s – return is one thing, suspected is another thing. At one point in the analysis in the past, it was if you go somewhere and then say something bad about the United States. I think if you talk about precisely those people who actually go back on the battlefield, literally, and then rejoin al-Qaida or take specific action, aggressive action or violent action against U.S. or allied interests, that’s one thing. But that is a much smaller percentage than what you just cited.

QUESTION: Are you – finally, are you satisfied with the rehabilitation programs abroad that that most of these guys are going into?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, you talk about the Saudi case in particular. There is – it’s been a very effective program. Obviously, significant resources devoted to that, but a very strong social network to – and a commitment by families and others to resettle these individuals, make sure they are on a constructive path. The Saudi program is being emulated in other parts of the world. That ultimately has to be part of the solution.

Yeah.

QUESTION: P.J., Aung San Suu Kyi’s opposition party has expressed their intent to boycott the elections, and I know that you’ve expressed concern over this in the past. But on Monday, they’re having a meeting, the party, to formally announce this. What do you think the implications, specific implications, will be for the elections in Burma on that?

MR. CROWLEY: Why don’t wait until Monday to see exactly what they decide to do and then we’ll comment at then.

QUESTION: One more on that.

MR. CROWLEY: Sure.

QUESTION: Do you think that the changes to the laws in Burma’s elections will be discussed at the G-8 foreign ministers meeting?

MR. CROWLEY: We obviously are, as we said a couple weeks ago, concerned about the election laws in Burma. We were clearly disappointed by them. It by no means does what Burma has to do in terms of opening up its political process and having meaningful dialogue with parties, including Aung San Suu Kyi’s, as well as the various ethnic groups within Burma society. I can’t predict that we’ll have a specific discussion at the G-8 summit. But this is, obviously, something that is of concern to us, as concerned others, and we will continue to share notes where it’s appropriate.

David.

QUESTION: The Venezuelan Government this week seems to be getting more energetic in its crackdown on critics and media, outlets that carry criticism. Any response to that?

MR. CROWLEY: We, again, urge the Venezuelan Government to honor its commitment under the Inter-American Democratic Charter, to uphold the principle that respect freedom and rights, including freedom of expression, is essential to representative democracies.

You had an election this week within the OAS with the – Mr. Insulza being reappointed as the head of the OAS. And in our discussions leading up to his appointment, we want to see going forward a greater emphasis given to the enforcement of the Inter-American Democratic Charter within the hemisphere.

Yeah.

QUESTION: Can you confirm the meetings between the foreign minister of Japan and Secretary Clinton?

MR. CROWLEY: Can I confirm – for next week?

QUESTION: Yeah.

MR. CROWLEY: I mean, they’ll be together at the G-8. I would expect that they would get together in some fashion during the course of the meeting, yes.

QUESTION: But nothing in Oslo? You can’t confirm anything in Oslo?

MR. CROWLEY: In Oslo?

QUESTION: Yeah.

MR. CROWLEY: I’m not aware the Secretary’s going to Oslo, so --

QUESTION: Yeah, okay. All right.

MR. CROWLEY: In Ottawa, yes. In Oslo, no.

Hold on, hold on.

QUESTION: Can you go back to Pakistan?

MR. CROWLEY: Sure.

QUESTION: I have three specific questions on them. Did you discuss with them the Pakistan-Iran gas pipeline deal?

MR. CROWLEY: The which?

QUESTION: Pakistan had a gas pipeline deal with Iran earlier this month. Did this issue came up during the discussions’ two days?

MR. CROWLEY: I don’t know. I wouldn’t be surprised, but I’m not aware. I’m not – I can’t be specific. If you want, we’ll take the question and see if it came up.

QUESTION: Okay. And secondly, this is about the Pakistan request for a civilian nuclear deal, because they have been saying that there has been discriminatory energy – use of energy sources. Why U.S. is reluctant to have a nuclear deal with Pakistan?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, we – it did come up during the course of our discussions. But as the Secretary said in her availability with Foreign Minister Qureshi, our focus right now is in – to focus on other means through which to satisfy Pakistan’s energy needs.

QUESTION: And finally --

MR. CROWLEY: Okay.

QUESTION: Finally, about the – this is about Lashkar e-Tayyiba. As you know, several officials in this building and in the Congress, and this morning (inaudible) at the Senate Arms Committee hearing, they spoke about how dangerous this Lashkar e-Tayyiba is, which is Pakistan-based, primarily a threat against India but now expanding to other parts of South Asia. You have been discussing with Pakistani authorities about the actions they have been taking against al-Qaida and Taliban, was this issue specifically they’re taking action against Lashkar e-Tayyiba came up during your meetings?

MR. CROWLEY: In any conversation with Pakistan on terrorism issues, that does come up, yes.

QUESTION: Just a quick one, this morning and this afternoon at the White House when Secretary and President announced the treaty between U.S. and --

MR. CROWLEY: Don’t forget Secretary Gates and Admiral Mullen.

QUESTION: (Laughter.) Right. So what I’m saying really, there was no mention of China. And you know in this building and across the river, you must be aware and also concerned about Chinese buildup of military and nuclear arsenals and all that. But where does China stand on this – as far as this treaty and future is concerned?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, it’s actually a great question. But this was a treaty between the United States and Russia. You have – they – together we possess the two most significant nuclear arsenals in the world. But you’ll see as we go through the next couple of months, you’ve got the issue of START and its prospective ratification. We’ve got the release coming up soon of the nuclear posture review. We’ll have the nuclear security summit next month, focused on keeping nuclear technology out of the hands of rogue elements and terrorist groups. You’ve got the review conference of the Non-Proliferation Treaty.

These are all significant steps towards fulfilling President Obama’s vision of a world without nuclear weapons. So at some point in the future, we will have to broaden this conversation. I would expect that that would begin during the NPT review conference in May.

Kirit.

QUESTION: Quick question. There is reports out of Gaza that Israeli tanks are advancing into Gaza and there’s reports of Palestinian casualties, do you know anything about that?

MR. CROWLEY: That’s probably – I had not heard anything about that prior to coming out to the briefing. We’ll see what we can find out about it.

QUESTION: Thanks.

QUESTION: P.J., is there any discussion whatsoever about cooperation on missile defense with the Russians? Because obviously this was a big issue for them in the beginning, but they have agreed to the statement which mentions it. But there are no restrictions on missile defense buildup as a result of this. But was there any background discussion in terms of cooperating or alleviating the earlier concerns of the Russians on this?

MR. CROWLEY: I think we have made clear in a variety of ways – Secretary Clinton communicated it again last week when we were in Moscow, our missile defense program, the Phased Adaptive Approach program that President Obama has advanced is not in any way, shape, or form directed at Russia. And as Secretary Gates alluded to again this morning, we seek ways in which we can cooperate with Russia on missile defense as we continue to expand and build an effective deterrent for the European continent and beyond.

We’ve had these discussions with Russia in the past. They are very complex, how you seek to make our technology compatible with Russian technology, as you seek protocols and how you would exchange information. But I think we are committed to have these conversations and see what kind of cooperation we can develop in the future.

Thank you. Have a nice weekend.

(The briefing was concluded at 3:15 p.m.)

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26일 서해 백령도 서남방에서 침몰한 1200t급 초계함 ‘천안함’의 침몰 원인에 대해 이 배의 생존자들이 ‘외부 피격’ 가능성을 제기했다. 이 증언이 사실로 밝혀질 경우, 큰 파장이 예상된다. 군 당국은 이 같은 생존자 증언도 충분히 감안하면서, 정확한 사고 원인을 밝히겠다는 입장이다.

원본출처 : 조선일보 

천안함 작전관이었던 박연수 대위는 이날 27일 오후 3시쯤 경기도 평택 해군제2함대사령부에서 열린 설명회에서 “배가 내부의 폭발이나 암초에 걸릴 가능성은 절대 없다. 내가 장담한다”고 말했다. 박 대위는 실종된 승조원 46명의 가족들을 대상으로 한 이 설명회에서 이 같이 말하고 “다른 침몰 원인은 공격을 받았을 가능성인데 이 부분은 정확하지 않고 현재 조사가 진행중이어서 내가 말할 입장이 아니다”라고 말했다.

해군 2함대사령부는 27일 오후 3시쯤 평택 사령부내 예비군 훈련장에서 200~300여명의 가족들이 모인 가운데 사고 당시에 대한 설명회를 가졌다. 설명회에는 천안함 생존자인 박 대위와 상사 2명, 사병 1명 등 4명이 참석했다.

또 다른 생존자인 상사 한명은 “밤 9시쯤 야식을 먹고 있는데 갑자기 배가 흔들거리더니 정전이 됐고 내 몸이 10㎝ 가량 튀어 올랐다”고 말했다. 이 생존자는 “어둠 속에서 벽을 더듬으며 밖으로 나와보니 배가 기울고 있었다”며 “이 때부터 손전등을 들고 다른 생존자와 부상자를 찾았다”고 말했다. 그는 이어 “다친 병사와 생존자를 발견한 뒤에는 밧줄로 몸을 묶어 끌어올렸고, 이후 배가 90도로 기울었다”고 말했다. 실종자 가족이 “왜 배가 침몰했느냐가 궁금하다”고 말하자 생존자들은 이부분에 대해 명확한 답변을 하지 않은 것으로 전해졌다.

이날 실종자 가족들은 생존자 설명을 듣다가 비명과 함께 울음을 터뜨렸다. 생존자들도 울먹이며 말을 잇지 못했다.

천안함 부상자 중 경기도 성남 국군수도병원으로 이송된 신은총(24) 하사는 가족과 면회한 자리에서 “갑판에 서 있는데 갑자기 뒤에서 평 하는 큰 폭발음이 났다. 잘 보이지 않았지만 배가 동강이 난 것 같았다”고 말한 것으로 전해졌다.


천안함 침몰 과정과 관련, 국방부는 이날 오후 열린 국회 국방위원회 긴급 현안보고에서 “폭발 2분만에 천안함 후미가 가라앉았고, 20여분이 지났을 땐 배의 60% 정도가 가라앉았으며 3시간만에 완전 침몰했다”고 말했다.

당시 천안함 함장은 배의 전력이 완전이 끊어지자 자신이 갖고 있던 휴대전화로 평택 2함대사령부와 통신을 한 것으로 밝혀졌다. 이 함장은 이 전화 보고를 통해 “큰 폭발이 일어났고 엔진이 멈췄다. 그리고 정전이 됐다. 갑판으로 올라가 확인하니 벌써 선미가 보이지 않았다. 이게 2분 사이에 일어난 일”이라고 말했다고 국방부 이기식 정보작전처장이 전했다.

해군은 이날 실종자 수색과 함께 사고원인 규명작업을 벌일 계획이었으나 기상 악화로 일단 실패했다. 해군은 이날 오후 해난구조대(SSU) 잠수요원 18명을 사고 지점에 투입, 실종자 수색과 선체에 대한 조사를 벌일 예정이었지만 기상이 좋지 않아 실패했다. 사고 해역에는 3?에 가까운 파도가 일고, 수면 밑에서는 조류가 3노트에 달하는 것으로 알려졌다. 해군은 이날 오전 10시쯤 수상함 10여척과 해난구조함(평택함) 1척을 비롯한 해군이 보유 중인 해난구조와 관련한 모든 전력을 사고 해상으로 급파했다. 상륙함(LST) 한 척도 인근에 대기시켰다.

김태영 국방부 장관은 “오늘(27일) 오전까지만 해도 배 앞부분 일부가 수면위로 조금 보였지만, 정오를 전후로 해서 완전히 가라앉았다”고 말했다. 김 장관은 “천안함이 침몰한 곳은 워낙 조석 간만의 차가 심해 구조 작업이 쉽지 않다”면서 “하루에 두번, 각 한시간씩 조류가 잠잠한 시간이 있는데 그때 적극적인 구조작업을 벌이겠다”고 말했다.


 해군은 28일 오후쯤 3000t급 구조함이 도착하는 대로 생존자 수색과 구조, 천안함 사고 원인 규명에 박차를 가할 계획이다. 천안함이 침몰한 해역은 수심이 20m 정도인 것으로 알려졌으며, 암초는 거의 없는 해역인 것으로 전해졌다.
 

천안함에는 모두 104명의 승조원이 타고 있었으며, 사고 당시 구조된 58명 이외에 추가로 구조된 사람은 아직 없다. 

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서해상에서 침몰한 천안함의 함장 최원일 중령은 27일 오후 당시 상황에 대해 "배가 두 동강이 났으며 함정 후미는 순식간에 침몰했다"면서 "내부나 외부의 충격에 의한 것으로 보인다"고 말했다. 

원본출처 중앙일보 

최 중령은 이날 오후 5시 30분쯤 실종자 가족 300여명이 모인 가운데 사고 당시 상황을 설명하며 이같이 말했다. 그는 "정확한 폭발원인은 천안함을 인양한 뒤 정확한 조사가 이뤄져야 알 수 있다고 본다"고 덧붙였다.

함정 내에서 화약냄새가 났냐는 일부 실종자 가족들의 질문에 최 중령은 "그런 사실이 없다"고 부인했다. 다만 기름냄새에 대해서는 "폭발로 인해 유류탱크에서 기름이 샌 것으로 보인다"고 설명했다.

최 중령은 또 "당직근무를 마치고 함장실에서 작전계획을 검토중이었는데 '펑' 소리와 함께 선체가 직각형태로 오른쪽으로 기울었다"며 "발전, 통신 등 모든 교신수단이 두절됐다"고 당시 상황을 전했다. 그는 "이어 함장실에 5분 가량 갇혀있다 밖에서 승조 장병들이 망치로 출입문을 깨줘 밖으로 나오게 됐다"며 "나왔을 때 함정 후미는 이미 보이지 않았다"고 말했다.

최 중령은 '장교들만 살고 사병들만 실종됐다'는 지적에 대해서는 "함장실과 전투상황실 지휘소가 배 앞에 위치해서 장교들만 살아남게 됐던 것"이라며 "한 명이라도 더 구하기 위해 탐색을 끝까지 마친 후에 귀향했다"고 해명했다. 그는 가족들에게 "장병 구조에 최선을 다했으나 혼자 살아 죄송하다"며 고개를 숙였다. 최 중령은 실종자 가족들의 항의가 거세지면서 브리핑을 마치고 빠져나갔다.

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